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June 16, 2024 Bible Study — God Can Do No Wrong

Today, I am reading and commenting on  Job 34-37.

Reading what Elihu says in today’s passage reminds me once again of those who preach “prosperity gospel”, those who preach that if you do God’s will you will be wealthy and powerful.  Elihu rightly tells us that God will not, cannot, do wrong or pervert justice.  He points out that if God withdrew His spirit from the world all life would cease.  God can do no wrong and cannot commit injustice because He defines what the words “good” and “justice” mean.  Elihu also tells us, correctly, that our sin causes no harm to God, and if we were righteous it would bring no benefit to God.  Whatever sinful or righteous acts we perform only have an impact on our fellow humans, not on God.  However, Elihu also tells us that the wicked always experience obvious suffering and those who do good always experience good fortune and obtain wealth.  I believe that there is more good than bad in what Elihu has to say.  I see chapter 37 verses 23 and 24 as his summation of what he had to say:

The Almighty is beyond our reach and exalted in power;
in his justice and great righteousness, he does not oppress.
Therefore, people revere him,
for does he not have regard for all the wise in heart?

I use the daily Bible reading schedule from “The Bible.net” for my daily Bible reading.

June 16, 2023 Bible Study — Only Testify To That Which We Know To Be True

Today, I am reading and commenting on  Job 34-37.

This passage really troubles me because so much of what Elihu says in it is very good, but the part he gets wrong, he gets VERY wrong.  So, what did Elihu get right?  Well, he was right to point out that Job was in the wrong to declare his innocence of all wrongdoing, for all have sinned.  Second, Elihu was correct in saying that our sin does not cause any harm to God, nor does our good behavior benefit Him.  Elihu tells us that there is no place where we can perform our actions in hiding from God.  He tells us that for all God’s power He despises no one, all are welcome before Him, if they turn from their sin and accept His grace.  Elihu reminds us that God does not do evil or any kind of wrongdoing.  However, Elihu accuses Job of keeping company with the wicked and with evil-doers, despite having no direct evidence that this is true.  Elihu was correct to chide Job for claiming to be innocent of all sin, since he witnessed Job make exactly that claim, but he was wrong to condemn him for associating with the wicked because he had not seen this to be true.

I use the daily Bible reading schedule from “The Bible.net” for my daily Bible reading.

June 16, 2022 Bible Study — Did Elihu Get It Right?

Today, I am reading and commenting on  Job 34-37.

I have written that we should take note that, unlike Job’s other three friends, Elihu is not reprimanded by God at the end of this book.  But in today’s passage Elihu says some things which seem to be more or less the arguments the other three made for which God reprimanded them.  On the one hand, Elihu calls out Job for saying that God denies him justice, but on the other hand, he also seems to follow the others in assuming that Job’s suffering is evidence of Job’s wrongdoing.  Elihu also tells us that it is unthinkable that God would pervert justice because it is God who defines justice.  He tells us that God has no need to run inquiries where He investigates what people have done because He already knows all of their actions and motives.  We cannot hide anything from God, who shows no partiality.  He does not favor the rich, or the politically connected.

I use the daily Bible reading schedule from “The Bible.net” for my daily Bible reading.

June 16, 2021 Bible Study God Does Not Benefit From Human Righteousness

Today, I am reading and commenting on  Job 34-37.

I am somewhat confused with what to make of today’s passage.  On the one hand, we have Elihu speaking, who is not mentioned at the end of the book among Job’s friends when God condemns them.  On the other hand, he makes a strawman argument against Job: he says that Job made arguments which he did not make.  Nevertheless, Elihu says some insightful things.  Elihu tells us that our sins do not harm God, and He gains nothing from our acts of righteousness.  The standards which God establishes are for the benefit of mankind, not Himself.  This is one of the most important insights which we can have.  When we sin, we harm ourselves and others.  When we do good, we benefit ourselves and others.  God’s Laws are not arbitrary.  Let us follow them so that we can experience the joy God intends for us.

I use the daily Bible reading schedule from “The Bible.net” for my daily Bible reading.

June 16, 2020 Bible Study Those Who Wish To Govern Must Embrace Justice, Those Who Seek Justice Must Stop Sinning

I am using the daily Bible reading schedule from “The Bible.net” for my daily Bible reading.

Today, I am reading and commenting on Job 34-37.

I wrote yesterday, but it is important to repeat it, Elihu is the only person who speaks in the Book of Job whom God does not reprimand for what he says.  In today’s passage he points out that Job is wrong to say that he has not sinned because everyone has sinned.  However, unlike Job’s other friends, Elihu does not attempt to identify Job’s sins as the cause of his suffering.  He does, however, point out where Job had said things which were wrong.  He challenges Job for saying that God has taken away his rights, has denied him justice.

Elihu’s statements in defense of God carry more weight and are more important than his challenge to Job’s claim of innocence.  First, he tells us that God does not sin and can do no wrong.  God pays no more attention to the rich than to the poor.  He sees everything that everyone does and judges them accordingly.  However, for what is going on in the world today the most important thing he says is in verse 17 of chapter 34.  The New Living Translation translates it as “Could God govern if he hated justice?”  But the New International Version translates that sentence in a more general fashion, “Can someone who hates justice govern?”  Elihu’s main argument is that since God does govern the world, we know that he must embrace justice.  However, we also see that anyone who wishes to govern even a small portion of this world must embrace justice.

I could stop there, but there is one more thing which Elihu says which is relevant to this.  Elihu asks why people do not say one of two things to God.

  • “I have sinned, but I will sin no more.”
  • “I do not know what evil I have done.  Tell me and I will stop at once.”

In order to stop injustice we must first stop sinning ourselves and if we do not know what sins we have committed, ask God to show us.

June 16, 2019 Bible Study — Elihu Tells US To Ask God To Reveal To Us Our Sins

I am using the daily Bible reading schedule from “The Bible.net” for my daily Bible reading.

Today, I am reading and commenting on Job 34-37.

As I wrote yesterday, I am not quite sure what to make of Elihu’s monologue which continues in today’s passage.   He seems at times to condemn Job as Job’s other friends did, but he also says some very insightful things.  I will focus on the things he says which strike me as insightful and leave the rest for another time.  Before I get started I want to point out something I just realized.  Previously when I have read Job I have struggled mightily with the bulk of it.  It seemed like it went on and on about a subject which could have been wrapped up in just a few chapters.  This time as I am going through it I find much more than ever before.  Which gives me hope that in another year or two God’s Spirit will reveal meaning for me in the parts which are opaque to me now.

In chapter 34 Elihu tells us that God does not, cannot, sin.  Further God loves justice and watches the actions of everyone everywhere.  There is no obstacle which can hide us from God’s eyes and He will determine when we come before Him for judgement.  When God deems the time is ripe, He brings the wicked to judgement without asking anyone’s opinion, no matter how mighty they might be. All of which brings us to Elihu’s key insight in this section. <blockquote>“Why don’t people say to God, ‘I have sinned,
    but I will sin no more’?
Or ‘I don’t know what evil I have done—tell me.
    If I have done wrong, I will stop at once’?</blockquote>

We know that God sees and knows our sins.  So, why don’t we confess them and ask Him to help us stop committing them?  And why don’t we ask Him to show us the ways in which we sin that we are unaware, so that we can stop doing those things?

Elihu continues to teach us that our sins do not harm God and a righteousness grants Him nothing He does not already have.  God’s commands to us are not for His benefit but for ours.  The godless suffer because they are too proud to seek God and His guidance.  They condemn Him for the suffering which results from their own actions and refuse to call out to Him for relief.  

June 16, 2018 Bible Study — Sin Causes God No Harm

I am using the daily Bible reading schedule from “The Bible.net” for my daily Bible reading.

Today, I am reading and commenting on Job 34-37.

    Elihu continues and reprimands Job for claiming to be sinless. He reminds us that God sees everything we do; no matter what subterfuge we try we cannot hide our actions from God. In His time, God will judge each and every one of us for our actions. We do not get to set the time for us to stand before Him. God does not twist justice and shows no favoritism. He judges the rich and the poor, the powerful and the powerless by the same standard. When the oppressed cry out to God, He hears them. If He chooses not to speak or act, how can we possibly know enough to criticize His choice? When we suffer we have two just choices. We can say to God, “I have sinned, but I will sin no more.” Or we can ask, “I do not know what evil I have done-tell me. If I have done wrong I will stop at once.” What is being said here echoes what is said many other places in the Bible. In particular, Paul says in Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” If we do not know what sin we are committing most frequently, we should ask God to reveal it to us so that we can stop doing so.

    Elihu has another insight for us here. One which I do not believe is touched upon elsewhere in the Bible. Our sins do not affect God. The Laws which God commands us to obey are not for God’s benefit, rather they are for ours. Violating the Laws which God has given us brings no harm to God. We are the ones who are harmed when we violate His Laws and commands; we and our fellow humans beings. In the same way, God does not benefit when we do what is right. Once again, doing what is right benefits us and our fellow man. God has given us his rules and laws for our benefit, we are hurting ourselves and our fellow man when we choose not to follow them.

June 16, 2017 Bible Study — I Have Sinned, But I Will Sin No More…If Only It Were That Easy

I am using the daily Bible reading schedule from “The Bible.net” for my daily Bible reading.

Today, I am reading and commenting on Job 34-37.

    Elihu says some things to which we should pay attention, but much of his argument against Job is against a strawman. Elihu quotes Job as saying, ‘Why waste time trying to please God?’ Which Job did indeed say, but Job’s statement was more a rhetorical question spoken out of frustration than a suggestion that there was no value in pleasing God. Elihu is guilty of doing what Job’s other friends did. He assumes that Job must be guilty of some sin because he is suffering. He claims that Job associated with the evil and the wicked solely on the basis of the fact that Job was afflicted. Despite these flaws in his reasoning, Elihu tells us some things of value. It is not possible for God to do wrong. God will not twist justice. Most importantly, Elihu reminds us that God is no respecter of persons, He does not care how great we may by, nor how great others many think that we are.

    Elihu gives us two prayers which should form the basis for our life. The first is, “I have sinned, but I will sin no more.” This is for those times when we know we have sinned and what sin we have committed. I will add that it is not that easy, at least not for me. I need to make that prayer, “I have sinned, but with Your help I will sin no more.” It is only by the Spirit directing my steps that I am able to stop sinning.
    The second may be even more important. It is for when we do not know of any sins we have committed. ‘I don’t know what evil I have done—tell me. If I have done wrong, I will stop at once.’ Each and every day, let us ask God to show us how we have sinned so that we can repent of our mistakes and change our ways. All too often we are unaware that certain of our actions are sin. We think that we were perfectly justified for doing something which God wants us to never do again. We must ask His Spirit to scour our hearts and reveal these sins to us. we must be receptive to acknowledging the areas in our lives where we need to change. That change will never be easy, but it will certainly be worth it.

June 16, 2016 Bible Study — I Have Sinned, But I Will Sin No More?

I am using the daily Bible reading schedule from “The Bible.net” for my daily Bible reading. I had been using One Year Bible Online, but it was time for a change.

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Today, I am reading and commenting on Job 34-37.

    I am not sure that Elihu is completely fair to Job, but he makes many good points. He speaks of god’s justice and His power. However, the thing that spoke to me the most was what Elihu says in chapter 34 verses 31 and 32:

Why don’t people say to God, ‘I have sinned,
but I will sin no more’?
Or ‘I don’t know what evil I have done—tell me.
If I have done wrong, I will stop at once’?

The essence of Elihu’s monologue is that no one can say that they are innocent before God. So, in a way, he is saying something similar to Job’s other friends. The key difference being that he does not claim to be without sin while accusing Job of sin. Further the verses I quoted above indicate that we may not be aware of what sins we have committed. We should ask God to show us, so that we can stop committing them, whatever sins they are. Each and every one of us has sinned. None of us is better than another in that respect. It is not our place to condemn others for their sins. We are to acknowledge our sins and strive to commit them no more, and to challenge those around us to do likewise. On a daily basis I call on the Holy Spirit to give me the strength to live that way. I pray for God to fully enter into my life and thus fully drive sin out. I know that I can only succeed in being able to honestly say, “I will sin no more” through the power of the Holy Spirit.