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September 15, 2024 Bible Study — We Need Not Defend Our Refusal to Worship According the the Dictates of Society

Today, I am reading and commenting on  Daniel 3-4.

I love the story of the fiery furnace.  It holds such important lessons for us.  This morning I was struck by a phrase which I never thought about much in the past.  When Nebuchadnezzar confronted the three friends over their failure to worship the golden image he had erected they responded by saying, “we do not need to defend ourselves before you in this matter. ”  Notice that they did not say that they did not need to defend themselves at all before him, just that they did not need to do so “in this matter”.  “This matter” was their refusal to bow down and worship the image of gold which he had set up.  They rejected his authority over them in the matter of who or what they worship.  They then asserted that their God could, and would deliver them from his attempt to punish them for refusing to accept his authority in this matter.   Finally, they stated that even if their God did not deliver them from his punishment, they would not follow Nebuchadnezzar’s dictates as to how, who, or what they should worship.  We should follow their example.

I use the daily Bible reading schedule from “The Bible.net” for my daily Bible reading.

September 15, 2023 Bible Study — Standing Up When Everyone Else Bows Down

Today, I am reading and commenting on  Daniel 3-4.

Usually when I write on this passage I focus on the faith and bravery of our three young heroes when they are about to be thrown into the fiery furnace.  However today I was struck by Nebuchadnezzar’s decree and the way in which their noncompliance was reported to him.  It reminded me of parts of our culture today which require adherence to values which are contrary to those taught in the Bible.  While no one in the United States faces a fiery furnace for failing to bow down to these idols and beliefs, they may face expulsion from certain professions and other penalties for daring to remain faithful to God.  Our three heroes stood up when everyone else bowed down.  They knew the penalties they faced for publicly defying the king, but did so anyway, putting their faith in God.  They stood up and God rescued them from the fiery furnace.  Do we have faith that if we stand up today that God will rescue us from our “fiery furnace”?  More importantly, do we have the faith to say, “Even if He does not, we will not serve your gods?”

I use the daily Bible reading schedule from “The Bible.net” for my daily Bible reading.

September 15, 2022 Bible Study — The God We Serve Is Able To Deliver Us

Today, I am reading and commenting on  Daniel 3-4.

My lovely wife married me 22 years ago on the 23rd of this month.  So I am going to wish her Happy Anniversary every day from now until then.

Happy Anniversary, Darling!

When Nebuchadnezzar made his gold statue and set up the ceremony for everyone to bow down to it, I think he imagined it as a unifying event which could help unify all of the peoples of his empire.  For Nebuchadnezzar this ceremony was political, not religious.  Nebuchadnezzar did not care if Jews worshiped God, as long as their first loyalty was to himself.  Thus the nature of his threat, “what god will be able to rescue you from my hand?”  Actually, this same attitude is what got Nebuchadnezzar in trouble in chapter 4 after his second dream.  In both cases, Nebuchadnezzar came to believe that no power could stand between him and his desires.  Returning to the story about the gold statue, those who reported Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego did so in order to gain political power.  Which brings us to Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.  For them, this had nothing to do with politics, not because they were unaware of the politics involved, but because their worship of God outweighed, for them, the political implications of their actions.  They believed that God could, and would, rescue them from Nebuchadnezzar’s hand, but if God chose not to rescue them, they would serve no other god.

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September 15, 2021 Bible Study — Our God Is Able To Deliver Us

Today, I am reading and commenting on  Daniel 3-4.

I have always loved the story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego and the fiery furnace.  Certainly much of that love goes to my childhood hearing of the story and the safety it made me feel.  As a young child the message which I was taught by this story was that God could, and would, protect me from any danger, no matter how great.  Then, as I got a little older it gave me the confidence to understand those who willingly gave up their lives to do God’s will.  Here, the trio tell Nebuchadnezzar that God WAS able to save them from the furnace, but that they would serve Him even if He did not do so.  Their service to God was not conditional on Him saving them from danger. We should have the same attitude in serving God: He is able to save us, but we should willingly serve Him even if His plans mean that He will choose not to do so.

However, today I was struck by something I never noticed before, King Nebuchadnezzar’s arrogance.  He rhetorically asks of the three, “Then what god will be able to rescue you from my hand?”  His statement there was more than denying that their God was powerful enough to thwart his will.  He was claiming there was no god which could do so.  He had come to believe that he was accountable to no one and to nothing. The dream, its interpretation, and the events which followed in the next passage give a similar message of a ruler who believes nothing will hold him to account for his actions.  Those who make up our government today believe that no one and nothing will hold them to account.  They are demanding that we bow down and worship their “gods”.  If we do not, they promise to punish us in ways from which they are sure that no god can rescue us.  In the face of this threat, let us remain faithful to God, even if He chooses not to rescue us.

I use the daily Bible reading schedule from “The Bible.net” for my daily Bible reading.

September 15, 2020 Bible Study The God Whom We Serve Is Able To Save Us

I am using the daily Bible reading schedule from “The Bible.net” for my daily Bible reading.

In the year 2000, on the 23rd day of this month, my wife married me.  So here we are on day 12 of the 20 days that I am going to wish her Happy Anniversary for 20 years of marriage.  Happy Anniversary Darling!

Today, I am reading and commenting on Daniel 3-4.

I have always loved the story of Meshach, Shadrach, and Abednego in the fiery furnace.  As a child I was taught that this account reveals how God can save us from even the most terrible danger if we faithfully serve Him.  Actually, the lesson I learned was that God will save us from such dangers if we are faithful.  However, a few years ago I was struck by our heroes’ response to King Nebuchadnezzar before they were thrown into the fire.  It comes in two parts.  The first part has been emphasized in most of the exposition I have seen on this passage: ” the God whom we serve is able to save us.”  That emphasis is good.  The God whom I serve (and whom I hope that you serve) is able to save us from even the most dangerous situation.  However, the second part is one to which we need to give more thought: “But even if he doesn’t, … we will never serve your gods.”  God is able to save us from whatever danger we may face, but we must be ready to face that danger even if His plan calls for us to suffer from it.  If we willingly experience whatever suffering comes out way as a result of serving God, He will reward us.  If we bravely stand our ground in faithful service to Him, God may save us from the threats we face, but we should stand our ground even if He does not.  I believe that most of the time God will indeed save us, but if we follow the example of these three men, we will certainly experience a reward and a joy which will make the pain worthwhile.

September 15, 2019 Bible Study — Sometimes We Must Decide If We Will Stand Up For Our Faith

I am using the daily Bible reading schedule from “The Bible.net” for my daily Bible reading.  

Today, I am reading and commenting on Daniel 3-4.

The story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego and the fiery furnace is another one of my favorites.  One of the things I have wondered about this story for years; where was Daniel when this happened?  I do not have an answer to that question and it does not really matter to the story.  More interesting to me is the picture I always had of this, which I realized today does not actually reflect what is described.  I have always pictured this as a great plaza with the statue in the middle with a great crowd gathered around.  The musical instruments sound and everybody in the crowd bows down, except for three men who can be seen standing amongst all of the bowing people.  Except that is not what is described.  When I read it today, I realized that Daniel’s three friends probably avoided the gathering altogether.  They likely thought, “Who’s going to notice that we stayed away?”  So, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego may well have tried to be low key and not make a scene about their unwillingness to worship anyone but God, in fact I think it likely that they did.  But when they were called out on it, they stood up for their beliefs.  There is a time and a place to quietly keep your beliefs to yourself and there is a time and a place to clearly state them.

I really like the way in which these three men answered when threatened.  They clearly and unequivocally stated their belief that God could and would save them from the danger they faced.  But they went further than that, they stated that their faithfulness to God did not rest upon their confidence that He would save them.  They stated that even if they knew that God would allow them to suffer and die, they would not worship false gods.  Let us strive to have a similar attitude; bring your struggles and difficulties to God with the knowledge that He can resolve them, but determined to remain faithful to Him even if He chooses to allow our suffering to continue.

September 15, 2018 Bible Study — Serving God, Even When We Know We Will Suffer For It

I am using the daily Bible reading schedule from “The Bible.net” for my daily Bible reading.

Today, I am reading and commenting on Daniel 3-4.

    The story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego and the fiery furnace is one that I have loved since childhood. I am sure that it is a popular story among children in many Christian families. I suspect that Mennonites, with their emphasis on the idea that faithful Christians will face persecution, probably focus on this story more than many denominations. When I read this story I see a few things which seem worth noting.
    King Nebuchadnezzar issued his edict that everyone should bow down to his statue, but he did not send out any enforcers. He appears to have believed that no one would even think about defying his order. However, a number of his advisers ratted out the trio of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Those advisers made a point of the fact that these three were Jews, likely an attempt to undermine other Jews as well by the actions of these three. There is an important lesson her for us. If you are a Christian, not standing up for what you believe is not likely to get you off the hook. If you identify as a Christian, someone is going to “smear” you by associating you with those who stand up for their faith, whether or not you do.

    For me, the part of this story which really strikes home is how the trio responded when Nebuchadnezzar said he would give them one more chance to bow and if they did not, no god would be able to save them from his wrath. There is a lot packed into their answer to Nebuchadnezzar. First, they told him that he did not have the authority to determine the morality of their actions. Second, they told him that God was more than capable of saving them from whatever he chose to do to them. Finally, they told him that they were willing to suffer the worst he could do to them rather than be unfaithful to God. That is worth a little more explanation. Their resistance to Nebuchadnezzar’s order was not predicated on the idea that God would save them from suffering. They believed that God could save them from suffering, but they did not know if He would. And it did not matter to them.

    The final part of this story, and the one which most Christians emphasize is what happens when they get thrown into the fire. The fire was so hot that those who threw the three into it were killed by the heat. However, despite being tied up before being thrown into the fire, our three heroes were able to walk around inside the furnace. More importantly is the fact that Nebuchadnezzar saw a fourth person in the fire with our heroes. The traditional Christian interpretation of this story is that the fourth person in the furnace was Jesus Christ, which is both a legitimate interpretation and a reason for putting so much emphasis on His presence. Jesus will be with us in our suffering. When we get shoved into the fiery furnace, He will be right there with us. Whether or not God rescues us from this, as He did these three, Jesus will be there with us until the end.

September 15, 2017 Bible Study — Pride Precedes A Fall

I am using the daily Bible reading schedule from “The Bible.net” for my daily Bible reading.

Today, I am reading and commenting on Daniel 3-4.

    I have always loved the story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. It seems like every time I read it I notice something that I never noticed before. One of the things I first noticed two or three years ago was that while the trio had faith that God could and would rescue them, they would still not have worshiped Nebuchadnezzar’s gods even if they knew He would not do so. The thing I noticed today was how quick everyone else was to go along with Nebuchadnezzar’s command to worship his statue. The trio were not observed and arrested by people designated by the government to enforce the law. They were observed and reported for not taking part in the public worship by people whose jobs had nothing to do with enforcing this law. AS far as we can tell, Nebuchadnezzar never actually delegated the task of enforcing his edict to anyone. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego got into trouble because they did not go along with the crowd. They stood up for what they believed in, in the face of condemnation from everyone around them. How many of the others in the crowd were only going along because they were afraid that the crowd would turn on them if they did not?

    The part of this passage about Nebuchadnezzar’s dream brings up a problem which many successful and powerful men face. We see signs of this problem in the first part. The problem which came upon Nebuchadnezzar, which had been foretold to him in his dream, was a result of his hubris, his great pride. We see signs of that great pride in the story of the fiery furnace. Nebuchadnezzar came to believe that there was no power higher than himself. That belief was why he put up a statue of himself and demanded that everyone bow down and worship it. And everyone went along with it, except our three Hebrew heroes. Despite being caught up short and forced to acknowledge a power greater than himself the first time he put himself in the position of God, Nebuchadnezzar soon was right back there. His hubris, his belief that there was no power greater than himself and that he was solely responsible for his great success brought Nebuchadnezzar low. It was only when he acknowledged that there was a power higher than himself that he was restored to sanity.

September 15, 2016 Bible Study — Is National Unity an Idol?

I am using the daily Bible reading schedule from “The Bible.net” for my daily Bible reading. Later this month it will be my wife’s and my 16th anniversary. To celebrate this event I have decided to wish my wife Happy Anniversary for 16 days.

Happy Anniversary, Alanna–Day 8
Thank you for being my wife.

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Today, I am reading and commenting on Daniel 3-4.

    One thing I had never noticed about this passage is the connection between the statue which King Nebuchadnezzar built and the statue in his dream (I have to admit that I did not notice it on my own. I had done an Internet search for information about this passage and the first article I came to made the connection). The author of that article suggested that Nebuchadnezzar built this statue as a counter-point to the one in his dream. Unlike the one in his dream, the statue Nebuchadnezzar built was all gold. However, the most important point was that Nebuchadnezzar built this statue in an attempt to overcome the flaw of the empire that formed the feet of the one in his dream. That empire was divided. Nebuchadnezzar made the statue and commanded everyone to worship it in order to unify his empire. Nebuchadnezzar did not pay attention to the fact that the kingdom which would bring unity to the world would be the Kingdom of God.

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    While I do not approve of the reason for why Colin Kaepernik refused to stand in honor of the national anthem, this story reminds me of it. The logic behind those who are angry about it is that it is terrible that he is not joining in the worship which is intended to unite us. My objection to what Colin Kaepernik is doing is that he is doing it in service to yet another idol. The three friends in our story did not refuse to worship the statue out of protest. They refused to worship the statue because they refused to worship anything other than God. Perhaps the reason I am most surprised that I never saw this interpretation of this story, nor even heard anyone else talk about it is that I come from a religious tradition which has always condemned civic religion as idolatry. The important lesson of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream and the story of the fiery furnace is that the only government which will ever bring unity to the people of every race, nation, and language will be the Kingdom of God.